Posts by label licker

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2013 How Can You Have a Happy Life?

by Atlantis in

credit goes to doug mason..2013 how can you have a happy life?

(this brochure was published for jewish readers in mind).

the site is a jw site and i think one page is missing.

label licker

Notice they stayed away from how the nation of Israel are now a spiritual nation? Nothing on the 144,000 or fds. They will laugh their faces off when they see gods name with the letter J instead of Y. Or where they quote Matthew 5:17,18. How Jesus came to fulfill the Law(to make rich) and NOT to destroy the Law. For truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter pass away from the Law.

Has heaven and earth passed away yet? NO! So obviously the Law or any letter of it would not pass away. Why would it? It came from Yehovah. The Law was perfect. It was man that distorted it and it was Yeshuah who had to come to teach it over again. And once again he will have to come to teach it. Last warning to all of mankind. This magasine is an insult and a joke.

When I asked for a copy of it the elders said it wasn't for everyone at the DC. I asked why and they said there was a shortage and they were told it would be online if we wanted one. That didn't make sense. Did any of you who went to the DC recieve your own personal copy?

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Excuse needed to get out of talk

by noonehome in

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friends

i work with the school overseer so he'll be with me all day before the meeting...so being 'sick' isn't an option.

this really isn't like me to weasel my way out of something....but i've been ridiculously depressed lately and honestly i just don't have it in me to do anything let alone put a talk together.

everytime i do one it takes allot out of me and let's just say the well is pretty dry.

label licker

Just tell him the you can tell only him and that it's really really embarassing, then tell him it's hemeroids. He'll appreciate that you could only talk to him about this matter and then he'll brush you off the hook because noone wants to talk about other peoples bum holes.

If you don't want to do that route then give us your outline and we'll put your talk together for you

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Last night the one cool elder calls me

by confusedandalone in

i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.

after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.

he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.

label licker

Sounds like you've made your mind up for sure so move on! I would think twice about going fishing with that goon since he just might pull a disappearing act on YOU! (man overboard if you know what I mean)Nowadays everyone in the org is on some kind of magic pill and are very unpredictable. Good luck!

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Would The Witnesses Be Happy To See You Come Back to The Kingdom Hall?

by minimus in

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would you get a huge response if you ever went back to the hall?.

would nobody care?

?.

label licker

Hey Nugget, if your jc was rushed and they wanted you out, what do you call my jc of six hours and all based on lies and stories the accusers couldn't remember? Do you think my congregation wants us back? I know my one accuser does for she felt so bad(guilty conscience) that she had to call me to tell me the elders had no accusers and if she would mind filling in. She did but had no story. It's pretty sad when the elders say that since there were alligations true or not, they have to show to the congregation that I've been disciplined. Their words not mine. Disciplined over stories of five years ago where I was supposed to have discouraged these young twits from pioneering.

Sure am glad it was these idiots that got rid of us and not Yehovah! They have shamed us and humiliated us over something we didn't do and the elders made sure the whole congregation sent us a message loud and clear not to come back. Trust me, this religion is the farthest from the bible. I don't sit with wicked ones who hide what they are.

Ummmm, what was the question again?LOL

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Please help. I am losing the plot.

by wordyword in

after being a witness for 40 years, i now find myself disfellowshipped.. i have had a number of doubts for a few years now, but still feel as if i'm living my life in the "t minus " to armageddon spector.. my parents are in their 80's and my dear mother is in very bad health.

i was allowed to pop through - about once a month to make sure my parents were ok and for them to see their grandchildren.

this all ended after the july watchtower article and especially since the district convention - with all the "counsel" on associating with disfellowshipped family members.. around 6 weeks ago, my dad asked me point blank why i wasn't trying to get reinstated.

label licker

Be careful that the watchtower isn't sniffing around your parents to see what they can get from them. They pretend to care while money is in their best interest. Hopefully you have other siblings that will help look after them. Really sorry to hear what your going through and wishing you nothing but the best. Take care of yourself and let your parents know that you love them no matter how they treat you. It's not their fault.

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Who comes before the Messiah?

by label licker in

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deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!

i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.

but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.

label licker

Thank you Myelaine. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Elijah still alive after the windstorm. At 2 Chronicles 21:12-15 it reads Elijah and the letter he wrote expressing Jehovah's condemnation which took place later on.

From what I'm trying to put together here from my studies is Elijah and now you have me studying again. Thank you for that scripture at Rev 8:8.

Again, Transhuman68, you also make a good point with Enoch and Moses. That Jehovah took them but they couldn't have gone to heaven since Jesus hadn't descended first.

Hebrews 11:35 = 1 Kings 17:17-24 + Hebrews 11:5 = Genesis 5:24 all of which are a great cloud of witnesses!

Sure do hope we're around to see how this will all play out but one thing is for sure, I really do believe that god will give everyone a fair chance to know the whole truth and then we will be allowed to decide wheather we follow him or be destroyed. Unlike the witnesses who think they have the authority to go ahead of Jesus and judge people without letting them learn the accurate knowledge first. That accurate knowledge comes when the two witnesses come and then Jesus. In this way I do feel very bad for the witnesses. Not the society.

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Who comes before the Messiah?

by label licker in

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friends

deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!

i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.

but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.

label licker

I was making a comparison with the two witnesses and the Messiah who are coming in the end as to who they MIGHT be in the greek scriptures to the hebrew scriptures. That's all:) Wasn't questioning the validity of Mary's virginity. Wasn't there.

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Who comes before the Messiah?

by label licker in

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friends

deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, malachi 4:5 says look!

i am sending you elijah before the coming of the great day of jehovah and john 1:19 the people are asking john if he is the christ, or is he elijah, or is he the prophet.. we know christ is coming again.

but according to malachi, elijah has to come before the christ.

label licker

Deuteronomy 18:15 talks of a prophet who would be raised up like me(moses);then, Malachi 4:5 says look! I am sending you Elijah before the coming of the great day of Jehovah and John 1:19 the people are asking John if he is the Christ, or is he Elijah, or is he the prophet.

We know Christ is coming again. But according to Malachi, Elijah has to come before the Christ. It was as though John and others knew this for why ask if he's the Christ or Elijah or the Prophet?

Now go to Revelation 11:5,6. Read up on what the two witnesses can do in the end. Fire issues from their mouth. Didn't Elijah shut off rain from the heaven, having fire fall from heaven in answer to prayer, called down fire on King Ahaziah's captain and his 50 men and parted the Jordan?Revelation 11:6 they have authorities over the waters to turn them into blood. Didn't Moses turn the Nile River into blood?

I'm just saying before the end comes, the two witnesses have to appear for three and a half years and then the Christ comes who will do the judgeing. The two witnesses have to die and then Harmegeddon( the seventh trumpet is blown). According to the society, they say they are the two witnesses yet harmegeddon never came right after like the scriptures state in Revelation 11.

And wasn't it Matthew 17:3 where it was Elijah and Moses who were with Christ in the transfiguration? Unless I would have read the hebrew scriptures there would be noway I could of understood the two witnesses in Revelation. God, did the WTBTS mess those scriptures up!

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Help needed: JC standards/questions for "Drunkenness"

by respectful_observer in

i'm hoping those of you in the jwn community may be able to help me out.

an acquaintance (of legal drinking age) may soon be sitting for jc under the charge of "drunkenness".. to those of you who have direct experience either serving on a jc, or being the subject of a jc related to the misuse of alcohol:.

- could you provide a list of questions that were asked of the accused?.

label licker

Splash, I was at a jw wedding one time where a publisher had to be scraped off the floor he was so drunk. The po looked at him and said don't think this won't be a disfellowshipping charge. What got him off was he said he had taken his meds and didn't know you couldn't mix alchohol with them. I always thought that if I were ever in those circumstances that's the card I would play. Unfortunately, the only time I drink is at judicial committees.

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YOU'VE GOT TO LAUGH!!

by The Searcher in

"all of our teachings are based on the bible, not on the writings of some religious leader in the united states.

"1 thessalonians 2:13. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/not-a-sect/.

all of the teachings (i counted 8) which have been reversed in the july 15th watchtower were based on the bible???????????.

label licker

LOL!Those human leaders will kick you out if you question them unlike Jesus.